>(C) CALIFORNIA STATE CIVIL LAW
>IV. IS THERE A TORT OF STALKING/CYBERSTALKING?
>4 Part Test
>CALIFORNIA CIVIL CODE § 1708.7 - STALKING
>1) Is there evidence of a pattern of conduct
evidencing a continuity of
>purpose, and which has no legitimate purpose,
the intent of which was to
>follow, harass, seriously alarm, annoy,
torment, or terrorize a
>specifically chosen target? AND
>2) Is there evidence that the target
reasonably feared for their safety?
>AND
>3) Is there evidence that the harasser made
at least one credible threat to
>the target with the intent to place the target
in reasonable fear for their
>safety, and with the apparent ability to carry
out the threat? AND
>4) Is there evidence that on at least one
occasion, the target clearly and
>definitively demanded that the harasser cease
and abate their pattern of
>conduct and the harasser persisted in their
pattern of conduct?
>And this website does seriously alarm me
with that much information
>being posted out there about me and the
unwanted phone calls
>that I am recieving. This definately does apply
under this law.
>And I do fear for my life because my name,
address and phone
>numbers (Including home and cell phone number)
are listed on
>the website along with a map to my house. I
recieve harrasing
>and annoying phone calls at all hours of the
day and night.
>These websites at
http://lamie.hallofshame.justthe.net
>and
http://www.jamiebaillie.com are very
harassing towards
>me and misrepresent me. And these websites
with the
>amount of information on them leaves me open to
identity
>theft and fraud.
>And also here are studies about the Impact
of Cyber Stalking
>http://www.cyber-stalking.net/victimimpact.htm
>Also again I would go look at the the Cyber
stalking
>rules for your respective states.
>http://www.haltabuse.org/resources/laws/ohio.shtml
>http://www.haltabuse.org/resources/laws/california.shtml
>Once again the connectivity provided by the
ISP in Ohio
>needs to be immediately terminated to this
website or
>filtered till the abuser removes the website.
>Also for the people at wildwestdomains.com
you can remove
>this domain from your registry as well. See
that it is immediately
>done for the domain jamiebaillie.com
>If you are not willing to do that then I
expect to hear immediately
>from your supervisor. This website needs to be
immediately
>shut down.
>Jamie
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>out written permission. Copyright © 2003 - 2004
by Jamie
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jamie" <jamie*mung...@hotmail.com>
>Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 10:42 PM
>Subject: Stalker at
http://lamie.hallofshame.justthe.net
>> Jamie Baillie
>> 3-42 Saranac Blvd
>> North York, Ontario
>> Canada, M6A 2G5
>> Phone #: 416-781-0627
>> Cell #: 416-450-1717
>> March 21 2004,
>> Please read my complaint bellow and
immediately
>> call me. This website needs to immediately
be taken
>> down and this harrasement/stalking needs to
immediately
>> stop.
>> This kind of website also leaves me open
to fraud as well
>> as identity theft.
>> This website needs to immediately come
down
>> and this harrasement and stalking needs to
immediately
>> cease and desist.
>> I also spoke with a John Fraser at
enterzone.net
>> who calls up screaming at me at 9:47 PM EST
on
>> March 21 2004 saying he is not going to
remove this
>> abusive site. The call came from
202-456-1212
>> He is trying to claim that I don't
maintain rights to
>> a picture which I took and is a picture of
me. Which
>> is wrong. This individual has no clue about
the law and
>> needs to be educated a lot. I do understand
that the
>> issue of the picture is a civil matter but
the harrasement
>> and stalking is definately a matter for the
police.
>>
http://www.gigalaw.com/articles/2000-all/loc-2000-03-all.html
>> He was saying he will not remove this
site.
>> This is clearly harasement and I do own
rights
>> to that picture located at
>http://lamie.hallofshame.justthe.net/%5C%5CPingre%5Chomes%5Cpublic_ht...
anae
>-sosdn%5CJamie
>> The call lasted till about 10:13 PM EST.
>> Even though it clearly violates
enterzone.net's AUP he is not going to
>> remove the person more then likely because he
is friends with the
>> abuser.
>> They are listing home phone number and a
cell phone number which is not
>> a public phone number and a map to my house
this clearly is stalking and
>> this needs to immediately stop.
>> Jamie Baillie
>> --
>> For newsgroups and email this message is the
property of the sender.
>> NO portion of this message may be copied or
reposted without my
>> written consent. The message may not be
altered in any way with
>> out written permission. Copyright © 2003 -
2004 by Jamie
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jamie" <jamie*mung...@hotmail.com>
>> To: <*munged*>
>> Cc: <*munged*t>; <*munged*>; <*munged*>;
>> <*munged*>; <*munged*>;
>> <*munged*>; <*munged*>; <*munged*>;
>> <*munged*>; <*munged*>; <*munged*>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 9:27 PM
>> Subject: Stalker at
http://lamie.hallofshame.justthe.net
>> > This abusive website needs to be
immediately REMOVED
>> > This person is clearly STALKING me and it
needs
>> > to immediately STOP.
>> > This person has my name, address, phone
numbers
>> > (home and cell number), a map to my house,
and a picture me up
>> > on this website at
http://lamie.hallofshame.justthe.net
>> > 03/21/04 21:22:36 dns
lamie.hallofshame.justthe.net
>> > Canonical name:
lamie.hallofshame.justthe.net
>> > Addresses:
>> > 66.35.75.157
>> > 03/21/04 21:22:40 dns justthe.net
>> > Mail for justthe.net is handled by
mx.justthe.net
>> > Canonical name: justthe.net
>> > Addresses:
>> > 66.35.75.157
>> > This user is clearly stalking and
harassing me and It needs to
>> > immediately stop.
>> > Also making defamitory remarks about me
>> > like
>> > "For example, on December 9, 2003, he
has been busy joe-jobbing me
>about
>> > this very website. In the time between
16:50 and 17:15, I have received
>> > well over 1000 bounce messages from all
over the place. But you may
>want
>> to
>> > read more about it."
>> > Which I have NOTHING to do with and I
have asked that they
>> > provide any kind of proof to back up what
they are saying and
>> > can not do so. Because I have nothing to do
with that and I was not
>> > joe jobbing anyone. But they continue to go
around making false
>> > and damaging statements like this about me.
>> > "Jamie is a deranged individual with
well-known psychological problems
>"
>> > I have no mental problems what so ever and
that is yet another false
>> > and damaging statement against me.
>> > "Look Lamie's got himself a hooker!!!'
and then showing
>> > a picture of a sheep is just sick and
totally unappropriate.
>> > 03/21/04 20:56:08 IP block
66.117.140.246
>> > Trying 66.117.140.246 at ARIN
>> > Trying 66.117.140 at ARIN
>> > OrgName: LanMinds, Inc.
>> > OrgID: LANM
>> > Address: 1700 Martin Luther King Jr Way
>> > City: Berkeley
>> > StateProv: CA
>> > PostalCode: 94709
>> > Country: US
>> > NetRange: 66.117.128.0 -
66.117.159.255
>> > CIDR: 66.117.128.0/19
>> > NetName: LOCRIAN-ENTERPRISES
>> > NetHandle: NET-66-117-128-0-1
>> > Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0
>> > NetType: Direct Allocation
>> > NameServer: NS2.LMI.NET
>> > NameServer: NS3.LMI.NET
>> > Comment:
>> > RegDate: 2002-10-09
>> > Updated: 2003-10-10
>> > TechHandle: DUELT-ARIN
>> > TechName: Dueltgen, James
>> > TechPhone: +1-510-843-6389
>> > TechEmail: *munged*
>> > OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE37-ARIN
>> > OrgAbuseName: Abuse
>> > OrgAbusePhone: +1-510-843-6389
>> > OrgAbuseEmail: *munged*
>> > OrgNOCHandle: NOC140-ARIN
>> > OrgNOCName: Network Operations Center
>> > OrgNOCPhone: +1-510-843-6389
>> > OrgNOCEmail: *munged*
>> > OrgTechHandle: DUELT-ARIN
>> > OrgTechName: Dueltgen, James
>> > OrgTechPhone: +1-510-843-6389
>> > OrgTechEmail: *munged*
>> > OrgTechHandle: CRAWF-ARIN
>> > OrgTechName: Crawford, Barbara
>> > OrgTechPhone: +1-510-843-6389
>> > OrgTechEmail: *munged*
>> > # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated
2004-03-20 19:15
>> > # Enter ? for additional hints on searching
ARIN's WHOIS database.
>> > 03/21/04 21:15:05 whois justthe.net
>> > .net is a domain of Network services
>> > Searches for .net can be run at
http://www.crsnic.net/
>> > whois -h whois.crsnic.net justthe.net
...
>> > Whois Server Version 1.3
>> > Domain names in the .com and .net
domains can now be registered
>> > with many different competing registrars.
Go to
http://www.internic.net
>> > for detailed information.
>> > Domain Name: JUSTTHE.NET
>> > Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
>> > Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
>> > Referral URL:
http://registrar.godaddy.com
>> > Name Server: NAME1.GLORB.COM
>> > Name Server: NAME2.GLORB.COM
>> > Name Server: NAME3.GLORB.COM
>> > Name Server: AMETHYST.JUSTTHE.NET
>> > Status: ACTIVE
>> > Updated Date: 04-oct-2003
>> > Creation Date: 25-jun-1998
>> > Expiration Date: 24-jun-2005
>> > Registrant:
>> > JustThe.net LLC
>> > 22674 Motnocab Road
>> > Apple Valley, California 92307-1950
>> > United States
>> > Registered through: GoDaddy.com
>> > Domain Name: JUSTTHE.NET
>> > Created on: 25-Jun-98
>> > Expires on: 24-Jun-05
>> > Last Updated on: 04-Oct-03
>> > Administrative Contact:
>> > Sobol, Steven *munged*
>> > JustThe.net LLC
>> > 22674 Motnocab Road
>> > Apple Valley, California
92307-1950
>> > United States
>> > (888) 480-4638 Fax --
>> > Technical Contact:
>> > Sobol, Steven *munged*
>> > JustThe.net LLC
>> > 22674 Motnocab Road
>> > Apple Valley, California
92307-1950
>> > United States
>> > (888) 480-4638 Fax --
>> > Domain servers in listed order:
>> > AMETHYST.JUSTTHE.NET
>> > NAME1.GLORB.COM
>> > NAME2.GLORB.COM
>> > NAME3.GLORB.COM
>> > lmi.net this abuser is using your
service and this person needs to
>> > be immediately removed from your network.
>> > 03/21/04 20:57:33 dns
lamie.hallofshame.justthe.net
>> > Canonical name:
lamie.hallofshame.justthe.net
>> > Addresses:
>> > 66.35.75.157
>> > 03/21/04 20:57:56 IP block
lamie.hallofshame.justthe.net
>> > Trying 66.35.75.157 at ARIN
>> > Trying 66.35.75 at ARIN
>> > EnterZone, Inc ENTERZONE-CBLK-1
(NET-66-35-64-0-1)
>> >
66.35.64.0 - 66.35.95.255
>> > Glorb Internet Services NTZN-66-35-75-24
(NET-66-35-75-0-1)
>> >
66.35.75.0 - 66.35.75.255
>> > # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated
2004-03-20 19:15
>> > # Enter ? for additional hints on searching
ARIN's WHOIS database.
>> > 03/21/04 20:58:15 whois !NET-66-35-64-...@whois.arin.net
>> > whois -h whois.arin.net
!net-66-35-64-0-1 ...
>> > OrgName: EnterZone, Inc
>> > OrgID: NTZN
>> > Address: 6227 Headley Rd
>> > City: Gahanna
>> > StateProv: OH
>> > PostalCode: 43230
>> > Country: US
>> > NetRange: 66.35.64.0 - 66.35.95.255
>> > CIDR: 66.35.64.0/19
>> > NetName: ENTERZONE-CBLK-1
>> > NetHandle: NET-66-35-64-0-1
>> > Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0
>> > NetType: Direct Allocation
>> > NameServer: NS1.ENTERZONE.NET
>> > NameServer: NS2.ENTERZONE.NET
>> > Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE
NON-PORTABLE
>> > RegDate: 2000-10-24
>> > Updated: 2002-06-06
>> > TechHandle: JF1998-ARIN
>> > TechName: Fraizer, John
>> > TechPhone: +1-614-554-4356
>> > TechEmail: *munged*
>> > OrgTechHandle: ENTER-ARIN
>> > OrgTechName: EnterZone
>> > OrgTechPhone: +1-614-554-4356
>> > OrgTechEmail: *munged*
>> > # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated
2004-03-20 19:15
>> > # Enter ? for additional hints on searching
ARIN's WHOIS database.
>> > 03/21/04 20:58:44 whois !NET-66-35-75-...@whois.arin.net
>> > whois -h whois.arin.net
!net-66-35-75-0-1 ...
>> > OrgName: Glorb Internet Services
>> > OrgID: GIS-71
>> > Address: PO Box 481
>> > City: Blacklick
>> > StateProv: OH
>> > PostalCode: 43004-0481
>> > Country: US
>> > NetRange: 66.35.75.0 - 66.35.75.255
>> > CIDR: 66.35.75.0/24
>> > NetName: NTZN-66-35-75-24
>> > NetHandle: NET-66-35-75-0-1
>> > Parent: NET-66-35-64-0-1
>> > NetType: Reallocated
>> > NameServer: NAME1.GLORB.COM
>> > NameServer: NAME2.GLORB.COM
>> > NameServer: NAME3.GLORB.COM
>> > Comment: For ALL abuse issues, email
*munged*
>> > RegDate: 2004-03-08
>> > Updated: 2004-03-08
>> > NOCHandle: GIS-ARIN
>> > NOCName: Glorb Internet Services
>> > NOCPhone: +1-614-476-5524
>> > NOCEmail: *munged*
>> > AbuseHandle: GIS-ARIN
>> > AbuseName: Glorb Internet Services
>> > AbusePhone: +1-614-476-5524
>> > AbuseEmail: *munged*
>> > TechHandle: GIS-ARIN
>> > TechName: Glorb Internet Services
>> > TechPhone: +1-614-476-5524
>> > TechEmail: *munged*
>> > OrgAbuseHandle: GIS-ARIN
>> > OrgAbuseName: Glorb Internet Services
>> > OrgAbusePhone: +1-614-476-5524
>> > OrgAbuseEmail: *munged*
>> > OrgTechHandle: GIS-ARIN
>> > OrgTechName: Glorb Internet Services
>> > OrgTechPhone: +1-614-476-5524
>> > OrgTechEmail: *munged*
>> > # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated
2004-03-20 19:15
>> > # Enter ? for additional hints on searching
ARIN's WHOIS database.
>> > **** DO NOT SEND THIS COMPLAINT TO
GLORB.COM****
>> > The person at glorb.com is friends with
this abusive individual and is
>> > extremely abusive and will not do anything
about this. You are not
>> > to foward, copy or give this complaint to
anyone with out my prior
>> > written consent.
>> > This abuse needs to immediately stop. If
this website is not
>immediately
>> > removed enterzone.net then I expect that
you will take action against
>> > glorb.com immediately and filter all
traffic to them till such time as
>> they
>> > are willing to comply with this request and
have this abuse stoped.
>> > if not then legal actions will be taken
against you.
>> > As per your own policies this person is
in violation of the law.
>> >
http://www.enterzone.net/aup/
>> > Intellectual Property Violations:
Engaging in any activity that
>infringes
>> > or misappropriates the intellectual
property rights of others is
>> > prohibited. This includes copyrights,
trademarks, service marks, trade
>> > secrets, software piracy, and patents held
by individuals,
>corporations,
>> or
>> > other entities. Engaging in activity that
violates privacy, publicity,
>or
>> > other personal rights of others is likewise
prohibited. ENTERZONE is
>> > required by law to remove or block access
to client content upon
>receipt
>> of
>> > a proper notice of copyright infringement
or other violations of the
>law.
>> > It is also ENTERZONE's policy to terminate
the privileges of clients
>who
>> > commit repeat violations of copyright laws.
>> > Defamatory or Abusive Language: Using
ENTERZONE's network as a means to
>> > transmit or post defamatory, harassing,
abusive, or threatening
>language
>> is
>> > prohibited. Forging of Headers: Forging or
misrepresenting message
>> headers,
>> > whether in whole or in part, to mask the
originator of the message is
>> > prohibited
>> > Other Activities: Engaging in
activities, whether lawful or unlawful,
>> that
>> > ENTERZONE determines to be harmful to its
clients, operations,
>> reputation,
>> > goodwill, or customer relations is
prohibited. As we have pointed out,
>> the
>> > responsibility for avoiding the harmful
activities just described rests
>> > primarily with the client. When ENTERZONE
becomes aware of harmful
>> > activities, it may take any action to stop
the harmful activity. This
>> > includes, but is not limited to, removing
information, shutting down a
>> > website, implementing screening software
designed to block offending
>> > transmissions, denying access to the
Internet, or take any other action
>> it
>> > deems appropriate.
>> > This person definately does not have any
permission to use my picture
>> > on his website And this abusive individual
is repeatly harassing and
>> > stalking
>> > me and posting defamitory information about
me.
>> > And this is very damaging to your
reputation as well and goodwill and
>> this
>> > abusive individual is violating
California's and Ohio's
>> > State Harrasemet/stalking laws..
>> >
http://www.haltabuse.org/resources/laws/california.shtml
>> > Cal. Civil Code § 1708.7
>> > SECTION 1. It is the intent of this act
to clarify that electronic
>> > communications are included in the actions
that can constitute the
>crimes
>> > of harassment and stalking. It is not the
intent of the Legislature, by
>> > adoption of this act, to restrict in any
way the types of conduct or
>> > actions that can constitute harassment or
stalking.
>> > SEC. 2. Section 1708.7 of the Civil Code
is amended to read:
>> > 1708.7.
>> > 1.. A person is liable for the tort of
stalking when the plaintiff
>> proves
>> > all of the following elements of the tort:
>> > 1.. The defendant engaged in a pattern
of conduct the intent of
>which
>> > was to follow, alarm, or harass the
plaintiff. In order to establish
>this
>> > element, the plaintiff shall be required to
support his or her
>> allegations
>> > with independent corroborating evidence.
>> > 2.. As a result of that pattern of
conduct, the plaintiff
>reasonably
>> > feared for his or her safety, or the safety
of an immediate family
>> member.
>> > For purposes of this paragraph, "immediate
family" means a spouse,
>> parent,
>> > child, any person related by consanguinity
or affinity within the
>second
>> > degree, or any person who regularly
resides, or, within the six months
>> > preceding any portion of the pattern of
conduct, regularly resided, in
>> the
>> > plaintiff's household.
>> > 3.. One of the following:
>> > 1.. The defendant, as a part of the
pattern of conduct specified
>in
>> > paragraph (1), made a credible threat with
the intent to place the
>> > plaintiff in reasonable fear for his or her
safety, or the safety of an
>> > immediate family member and, on at least
one occasion, the plaintiff
>> > clearly and definitively demanded that the
defendant cease and abate
>his
>> or
>> > her pattern of conduct and the defendant
persisted in his or her
>pattern
>> of
>> > conduct.
>> > 2.. The defendant violated a
restraining order, including, but
>not
>> > limited to, any order issued pursuant to
Section 527.6 of the Code of
>> Civil
>> > Procedure, prohibiting any act described in
subdivision (a).
>> > 2.. For the purposes of this section:
>> > 1.. "Pattern of conduct" means conduct
composed of a series of acts
>> > over a period of time, however short,
evidencing a continuity of
>purpose.
>> > Constitutionally protected activity is not
included within the meaning
>of
>> > "pattern of conduct."
>> > 2.. "Credible threat" means a verbal or
written threat, including
>> that
>> > communicated by means of an electronic
communication device, or a
>threat
>> > implied by a pattern of conduct or a
combination of verbal, written, or
>> > electronically communicated statements and
conduct, made with the
>intent
>> > and apparent ability to carry out the
threat so as to cause the person
>> who
>> > is the target of the threat to reasonably
fear for his or her safety or
>> the
>> > safety of his or her immediate family.
>> > 3.. "Electronic communication device"
includes, but is not limited
>> to,
>> > telephones, cellular telephones, computers,
video recorders, fax
>> machines,
>> > or pagers. "Electronic communication" has
the same meaning as the term
>> > defined in Subsection 12 of Section 2510 of
Title 18 of the United
>States
>> > Code.
>> > 4.. "Harass" means a knowing and
willful course of conduct directed
>> at
>> > a specific person which seriously alarms,
annoys, torments, or
>terrorizes
>> > the person, and which serves no legitimate
purpose. The course of
>conduct
>> > must be such as would cause a reasonable
person to suffer substantial
>> > emotional distress, and must actually cause
substantial emotional
>> distress
>> > to the person.
>> > 3.. A person who commits the tort of
stalking upon another is liable
>to
>> > that person for damages, including, but not
limited to, general
>damages,
>> > special damages, and punitive damages
pursuant to Section 3294.
>> > 4.. In an action pursuant to this
section, the court may grant
>> equitable
>> > relief, including, but not limited to, an
injunction.
>> > 5.. The rights and remedies provided in
this section are cumulative
>and
>> > in addition to any other rights and
remedies provided by law.
>> > 6.. This section shall not be construed
to impair any
>constitutionally
>> > protected activity, including, but not
limited to, speech, protest, and
>> > assembly.
>> > SEC. 3. Section 422 of the Penal Code is
amended to read:
>> > 422. Any person who willfully threatens to
commit a crime which will
>> result
>> > in death or great bodily injury to another
person, with the specific
>> intent
>> > that the statement, made verbally, in
writing, or by means of an
>> electronic
>> > communication device, is to be taken as a
threat, even if there is no
>> > intent of actually carrying it out, which,
on its face and under the
>> > circumstances in which it is made, is so
unequivocal, unconditional,
>> > immediate, and specific as to convey to the
person threatened, a
>gravity
>> of
>> > purpose and an immediate prospect of
execution of the threat, and
>thereby
>> > causes that person reasonably to be in
sustained fear for his or her
>own
>> > safety or for his or her immediate family's
safety, shall be punished
>by
>> > imprisonment in the county jail not to
exceed one year, or by
>> imprisonment
>> > in the state prison.
>> > For the purposes of this section,
"immediate family" means any spouse,
>> > whether by marriage or not, parent, child,
any person related by
>> > consanguinity or affinity within the second
degree, or any other person
>> who
>> > regularly resides in the household, or who,
within the prior six
>months,
>> > regularly resided in the household.
>> > "Electronic communication device"
includes, but is not limited to,
>> > telephones, cellular telephones, computers,
video recorders, fax
>> machines,
>> > or pagers. "Electronic communication" has
the same meaning as the term
>> > defined in Subsection 12 of Section 2510 of
Title 18 of the United
>States
>> > Code.
>> > SEC. 4. Section 646.9 of the Penal Code
is amended to read:
>> > 646.9.
>> > 1.. Any person who willfully,
maliciously, and repeatedly follows or
>> > harasses another person and who makes a
credible threat with the intent
>> to
>> > place that person in reasonable fear for
his or her safety, or the
>safety
>> > of his or her immediate family, is guilty
of the crime of stalking,
>> > punishable by imprisonment in a county jail
for not more than one year
>or
>> > by a fine of not more than one thousand
dollars ($1,000), or by both
>that
>> > fine and imprisonment, or by imprisonment
in the state prison.
>> > 2.. Any person who violates subdivision
(a) when there is a temporary
>> > restraining order, injunction, or any other
court order in effect
>> > prohibiting the behavior described in
subdivision (a) against the same
>> > party, shall be punished by imprisonment in
the state prison for two,
>> > three, or four years.
>> > 3.. Every person who, having been
convicted of a felony under this
>> > section, commits a second or subsequent
violation of this section shall
>> be
>> > punished by imprisonment in the state
prison for two, three, or four
>> years.
>> > 4.. In addition to the penalties provided
in this section, the
>> sentencing
>> > court may order a person convicted of a
felony under this section to
>> > register as a sex offender pursuant to
subparagraph (E) of paragraph
>(2)
>> of
>> > subdivision (a) of Section 290.
>> > 5.. For the purposes of this section,
"harasses" means a knowing and
>> > willful course of conduct directed at a
specific person that seriously
>> > alarms, annoys, torments, or terrorizes the
person, and that serves no
>> > legitimate purpose. This course of conduct
must be such as would cause
>a
>> > reasonable person to suffer substantial
emotional distress, and must
>> > actually cause substantial emotional
distress to the person.
>> > 6.. For purposes of this section, "course
of conduct" means a pattern
>> of
>> > conduct composed of a series of acts over a
period of time, however
>> short,
>> > evidencing a continuity of purpose.
Constitutionally protected activity
>> is
>> > not included within the meaning of "course
of conduct."
>> > 7.. For the purposes of this section,
"credible threat" means a
>verbal
>> or
>> > written threat, including that performed
through the use of an
>electronic
>> > communication device, or a threat implied
by a pattern of conduct or a
>> > combination of verbal, written, or
electronically communicated
>statements
>> > and conduct made with the intent to place
the person that is the target
>> of
>> > the threat in reasonable fear for his or
her safety or the safety of
>his
>> or
>> > her family and made with the apparent
ability to carry out the threat
>so
>> as
>> > to cause the person who is the target of
the threat to reasonably fear
>> for
>> > his or her safety or the safety of his or
her family. It is not
>necessary
>> > to prove that the defendant had the intent
to actually carry out the
>> > threat. The present incarceration of a
person making the threat shall
>not
>> > be a bar to prosecution under this section.
>> > 8.. For purposes of this section, the
term "Electronic communication
>> > device" includes, but is not limited to,
telephones, cellular phones,
>> > computers, video recorders, fax machines,
or pagers. "Electronic
>> > communication" has the same meaning as the
term defined in Subsection
>12
>> of
>> > Section 2510 of Title 18 of the United
States Code.
>> > 9.. This section shall not apply to
conduct that occurs during labor
>> > picketing.
>> > 10.. If probation is granted, or the
execution or imposition of a
>> > sentence is suspended, for any person
convicted under this section, it
>> > shall be a condition of probation that the
person participate in
>> > counseling, as designated by the court.
However, the court, upon a
>> showing
>> > of good cause, may find that the counseling
requirement shall not be
>> > imposed.
>> > 11.. The sentencing court also shall
consider issuing an order
>> > restraining the defendant from any contact
with the victim, that may be
>> > valid for up to 10 years, as determined by
the court. It is the intent
>of
>> > the Legislature that the length of any
restraining order be based upon
>> the
>> > seriousness of the facts before the court,
the probability of future
>> > violations, and the safety of the victim
and his or her immediate
>family.
>> > 12.. For purposes of this section,
"immediate family" means any
>spouse,
>> > parent, child, any person related by
consanguinity or affinity within
>the
>> > second degree, or any other person who
regularly resides in the
>> household,
>> > or who, within the prior six months,
regularly resided in the
>household.
>> > 13.. The court shall consider whether the
defendant would benefit
>from
>> > treatment pursuant to Section 2684. If it
is determined to be
>> appropriate,
>> > the court shall recommend that the
Department of Corrections make a
>> > certification as provided in Section 2684.
Upon the certification, the
>> > defendant shall be evaluated and
transferred to the appropriate
>hospital
>> > for treatment pursuant to Section 2684.
>> > SEC. 5. Section 653m of the Penal Code is
amended to read:
>> > 653m.
>> > 1.. Every person who, with intent to
annoy, telephones or makes
>contact
>> > by means of an electronic communication
device with another and
>addresses
>> > to or about the other person any obscene
language or addresses to the
>> other
>> > person any threat to inflict injury to the
person or property of the
>> person
>> > addressed or any member of his or her
family, is guilty of a
>misdemeanor.
>> > Nothing in this subdivision shall apply to
telephone calls or
>electronic
>> > contacts made in good faith.
>> > 2.. Every person who makes repeated
telephone calls or makes repeated
>> > contact by means of an electronic
communication device with intent to
>> annoy
>> > another person at his or her residence, is,
whether or not conversation
>> > ensues from making the telephone call or
electronic contact, guilty of
>a
>> > misdemeanor. Nothing in this subdivision
shall apply to telephone calls
>> or
>> > electronic contacts made in good faith.
>> > 3.. Every person who makes repeated
telephone calls or makes repeated
>> > contact by means of an electronic
communication device with the intent
>to
>> > annoy another person at his or her place of
work is guilty of a
>> misdemeanor
>> > punishable by a fine of not more than one
thousand dollars ($1,000), or
>> by
>> > imprisonment in a county jail for not more
than one year, or by both
>the
>> > fine and imprisonment. Nothing in this
subdivision shall apply to
>> telephone
>> > calls or electronic contacts made in good
faith. This subdivision
>applies
>> > only if one or both of the following
circumstances exist:
>> > 1.. There is a temporary restraining
order, an injunction, or any
>> other
>> > court order, or any combination of these
court orders, in effect
>> > prohibiting the behavior described in this
section.
>> > 2.. The person makes repeated telephone
calls or makes repeated
>> contact
>> > by means of an electronic communication
device with the intent to annoy
>> > another person at his or her place of work,
totaling more than 10 times
>> in
>> > a 24-hour period, whether or not
conversation ensues from making the
>> > telephone call or electronic contact, and
the repeated telephone calls
>or
>> > electronic contacts are made to the
workplace of an adult or fully
>> > emancipated minor who is a spouse, former
spouse, cohabitant, former
>> > cohabitant, or person with whom the person
has a child or has had a
>> dating
>> > or engagement relationship or is having a
dating or engagement
>> > relationship.
>> > 4.. Any offense committed by use of a
telephone may be deemed to have
>> > been committed where the telephone call or
calls were made or received.
>> Any
>> > offense committed by use of an electronic
communication device or
>medium,
>> > including the Internet, may be deemed to
have been committed where the
>> > electronic communication or communications
were originally sent or
>first
>> > viewed by the recipient.
>> > 5.. Subdivision (a), (b), or (c) is
violated when the person acting
>> with
>> > intent to annoy makes a telephone call
requesting a return call and
>> > performs the acts prohibited under
subdivision (a), (b), or (c) upon
>> > receiving the return call.
>> > 6.. If probation is granted, or the
execution or imposition of
>sentence
>> > is suspended, for any person convicted
under this section, the court
>may
>> > order as a condition of probation that the
person participate in
>> > counseling.
>> > 7.. For purposes of this section the term
"Electronic communication
>> > device" includes, but is not limited to,
telephones, cellular phones,
>> > computers, video recorders, fax machines,
or pagers. "Electronic
>> > communication" has the same meaning as the
term defined in Subsection
>12
>> of
>> > Section 2510 of Title 18 of the United
States Code.
>> > SEC. 6. This act shall become operative
only if Assembly Bill 2351 is
>> also
>> > enacted and becomes operative on or before
January 1, 1999.
>> > SEC. 7. No reimbursement is required by
this act pursuant to Section 6
>of
>> > Article XIIIB of the California
Constitution because the only costs
>that
>> > may be incurred by a local agency or school
district will be incurred
>> > because this act creates a new crime or
infraction, eliminates a crime
>or
>> > infraction, or changes the penalty for a
crime or infraction, within
>the
>> > meaning of Section 17556 of the Government
Code, or changes the
>> definition
>> > of a crime within the meaning of Section 6
of Article XIIIB of the
>> > California Constitution.
>> > Notwithstanding Section 17580 of the
Government Code, unless otherwise
>> > specified, the provisions of this act shall
become operative on the
>same
>> > date that the act takes effect pursuant to
the California Constitution.
>> >
http://www.haltabuse.org/resources/laws/ohio.shtml
>> > §: 2917.21 Telecommunications harassment
>> > 1.. No person shall knowingly make or
cause to be made a
>> > telecommunication, or knowingly permit a
telecommunication to be made
>> from
>> > a telecommunications device under the
person's control, to another, if
>> the
>> > caller does any of the following:
>> > 1.. Fails to identify the caller to the
recipient of the
>> > telecommunication and makes the
telecommunication with purpose to
>harass
>> or
>> > abuse any person at the premises to which
the telecommunication is
>made,
>> > whether or not actual communication takes
place between the caller and
>a
>> > recipient;
>> > 2.. Describes, suggests, requests, or
proposes that the caller, the
>> > recipient of the telecommunication, or any
other person engage in
>sexual
>> > activity, and the recipient or another
person at the premises to which
>> the
>> > telecommunication is made has requested, in
a previous
>telecommunication
>> or
>> > in the immediate telecommunication, that
the caller not make a
>> > telecommunication to the recipient or to
the premises to which the
>> > telecommunication is made;
>> > 3.. During the telecommunication,
violates section 2903.21 of the
>> > Revised Code;
>> > 4.. Knowingly states to the recipient
of the telecommunication that
>> the
>> > caller intends to cause damage to or
destroy public or private
>property,
>> > and the recipient, any member of the
recipient's family, or any other
>> > person who resides at the premises to which
the telecommunication is
>made
>> > owns, leases, resides, or works in, will at
the time of the destruction
>> or
>> > damaging be near or in, has the
responsibility of protecting, or
>insures
>> > the property that will be destroyed or
damaged;
>> > 5.. Knowingly makes the
telecommunication to the recipient of the
>> > telecommunication, to another person at the
premises to which the
>> > telecommunication is made, or to those
premises, and the recipient or
>> > another person at those premises previously
has told the caller not to
>> make
>> > a telecommunication to those premises or to
any persons at those
>> premises.
>> > 2.. No person shall make or cause to be
made a telecommunication, or
>> > permit a telecommunication to be made from
a telecommunications device
>> > under the person's control, with purpose to
abuse, threaten, or harass
>> > another person.
>> > "Telecommunication" means the origination,
emission, dissemination,
>> > transmission, or reception of data, images,
signals, sounds, or other
>> > intelligence or equivalence of intelligence
of any nature over any
>> > communications system by any method,
including, but not limited to, a
>> fiber
>> > optic, electronic, magnetic, optical,
digital, or analog method
>> > See that this abuser is immediately
removed from all networks.
>> > For the law enforcement that have been
contacted please immediately
>> > contact me about this and get these
stalkers locked away.
>> > To all parties who recieved this
complaint this complaint is
>> > not to be fowarded, copied or given to
anyone with out my prior
>> > written consent.
>> > Jamie
>> > --
>> > For newsgroups and email this message is
the property of the sender.
>> > NO portion of this message may be copied or
reposted without my
>> > written consent. The message may not be
altered in any way with
>> > out written permission. Copyright © 2003 -
2004 by Jamie
>> > Path:
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>> > Sender: "=LMI=Steven J. Sobol"<*munged*t>
>> > From: Steven J Sobol <*munged*>
>> > Subject: Re: Paging Andrew D Kirch
>> > Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
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>> > (news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com)
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Steven J Sobol" <*munged*>
>> > Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 8:40 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Paging Andrew D Kirch
>> > > Jamie <jamie100...@nospamhotmail.com>
wrote:
>> > > > I recieved this email from some one
that you must obviously know.
>> > > > I don't even know who this is and I
never heard of Frank Corsi
>> > > > before.
>> > > Go to hell, script-kiddie wannabe. No
one gives a rat's ass what you
>> > think.
>> > > BTW:
http://lamie.hallofshame.justthe.net/ is
still up, loser.
>> > > --
>> > > JustThe.net Internet & New Media
Services, Apple Valley, CA PGP:
>> > 0xE3AE35ED
>> > > Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge /
888.480.4NET (4638) /
>> > sjso...@JustThe.net
>> > > Domain Names, $9.95/yr, 24x7 service:
http://DomainNames.JustThe.net/
>> > > "someone once called me a sofa, but i
didn't feel compelled to rush
>out
>> > and buy
>> > > slip covers." -adam brower * Hiroshima
'45, Chernobyl '86, Windows
>> > 98/2000/2003
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jamie" <jamie*mung...@hotmail.com>
>Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 11:40 PM
>Subject: Stalker and
http://www.jamiebaillie.com
>> Jamie Baillie
>> 3-42 Saranac Blvd
>> North York, Ontario
>> Canada, M6A 2G5
>> Phone #: 416-781-0627
>> Cell #: 416-450-1717
>> March 21 2004,
>> This is in regards to jamiebaillie.com and
the abusive material listed
>> on it. It appears that this abusive user has
a website up at
>>
http://lamie.hallofshame.justthe.net
>> and has also registered a domain using the
>> name jamiebaillie.com
>> This abusive user at
http://lamie.hallofshame.justthe.net
>> has my, name, address, phone numbers
including home
>> and cell phone number and is clearly stalking
and harassing
>> me.
>> This is totally unacceptable and this
hararasement needs to
>> immediately stop. I already sent you a
complaint about
>>
http://lamie.hallofshame.justthe.net but I
then found out that
>> this same abusive individual has put up
another site
>> at
http://www.jamiebaillie.com
>> 03/21/04 23:09:27 dns jamiebaillie.com
>> Mail for jamiebaillie.com is handled by
mail.jamiebaillie.com
>> Canonical name: jamiebaillie.com
>> Addresses:
>> 66.35.75.70
>> Dig jamiebaillie....@name3.glorb.com
(66.35.75.70) ...
>> Authoritative Answer
>> Recursive queries supported by this server
>> Query for jamiebaillie.com type=255 class=1
>> jamiebaillie.com A (Address) 66.35.75.70
>> jamiebaillie.com NS (Nameserver)
name3.glorb.com
>> jamiebaillie.com NS (Nameserver)
amethyst.justthe.net
>> jamiebaillie.com SOA (Zone of Authority)
>> Primary NS: name3.glorb.com
>> Responsible person: *munged*
>> serial:26
>> refresh:900s (15 minutes)
>> retry:600s (10 minutes)
>> expire:86400s (24 hours)
>> minimum-ttl:3600s (60 minutes)
>> jamiebaillie.com MX (Mail Exchanger)
Priority: 10 mail.jamiebaillie.com
>> name3.glorb.com A (Address) 66.35.75.70
>> amethyst.justthe.net A (Address)
66.35.75.156
>> mail.jamiebaillie.com A (Address)
66.35.75.67
>> 03/21/04 23:08:44 IP block
jamiebaillie.com
>> Trying 66.35.75.70 at ARIN
>> Trying 66.35.75 at ARIN
>> EnterZone, Inc ENTERZONE-CBLK-1
(NET-66-35-64-0-1)
>> 66.35.64.0
- 66.35.95.255
>> Glorb Internet Services NTZN-66-35-75-24
(NET-66-35-75-0-1)
>> 66.35.75.0
- 66.35.75.255
>> # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated
2004-03-21 19:15
>> # Enter ? for additional hints on searching
ARIN's WHOIS database.
>> 03/21/04 23:08:53 whois !NET-66-35-64-...@whois.arin.net
>> whois -h whois.arin.net !net-66-35-64-0-1
...
>> OrgName: EnterZone, Inc
>> OrgID: NTZN
>> Address: 6227 Headley Rd
>> City: Gahanna
>> StateProv: OH
>> PostalCode: 43230
>> Country: US
>> NetRange: 66.35.64.0 - 66.35.95.255
>> CIDR: 66.35.64.0/19
>> NetName: ENTERZONE-CBLK-1
>> NetHandle: NET-66-35-64-0-1
>> Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0
>> NetType: Direct Allocation
>> NameServer: NS1.ENTERZONE.NET
>> NameServer: NS2.ENTERZONE.NET
>> Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE
NON-PORTABLE
>> RegDate: 2000-10-24
>> Updated: 2002-06-06
>> TechHandle: JF1998-ARIN
>> TechName: Fraizer, John
>> TechPhone: +1-614-554-4356
>> TechEmail: *munged*
>> OrgTechHandle: ENTER-ARIN
>> OrgTechName: EnterZone
>> OrgTechPhone: +1-614-554-4356
>> OrgTechEmail: *munged*
>> # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated
2004-03-21 19:15
>> # Enter ? for additional hints on searching
ARIN's WHOIS database.
>> 03/21/04 23:09:17 whois !NET-66-35-75-...@whois.arin.net
>> whois -h whois.arin.net !net-66-35-75-0-1
...
>> OrgName: Glorb Internet Services
>> OrgID: GIS-71
>> Address: PO Box 481
>> City: Blacklick
>> StateProv: OH
>> PostalCode: 43004-0481
>> Country: US
>> NetRange: 66.35.75.0 - 66.35.75.255
>> CIDR: 66.35.75.0/24
>> NetName: NTZN-66-35-75-24
>> NetHandle: NET-66-35-75-0-1
>> Parent: NET-66-35-64-0-1
>> NetType: Reallocated
>> NameServer: NAME1.GLORB.COM
>> NameServer: NAME2.GLORB.COM
>> NameServer: NAME3.GLORB.COM
>> Comment: For ALL abuse issues, email *munged*
>> RegDate: 2004-03-08
>> Updated: 2004-03-08
>> AbuseHandle: GIS-ARIN
>> AbuseName: Glorb Internet Services
>> AbusePhone: +1-614-476-5524
>> AbuseEmail: *munged*
>> NOCHandle: GIS-ARIN
>> NOCName: Glorb Internet Services
>> NOCPhone: +1-614-476-5524
>> NOCEmail: *munged*
>> TechHandle: GIS-ARIN
>> TechName: Glorb Internet Services
>> TechPhone: +1-614-476-5524
>> TechEmail: *munged*
>> OrgAbuseHandle: GIS-ARIN
>> OrgAbuseName: Glorb Internet Services
>> OrgAbusePhone: +1-614-476-5524
>> OrgAbuseEmail: *munged*
>> OrgTechHandle: GIS-ARIN
>> OrgTechName: Glorb Internet Services
>> OrgTechPhone: +1-614-476-5524
>> OrgTechEmail: *munged*
>> # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated
2004-03-21 19:15
>> # Enter ? for additional hints on searching
ARIN's WHOIS database.
>> 03/21/04 23:17:17 whois jamiebaillie.com
>> .com is a domain of USA & International
Commercial
>> Searches for .com can be run at
http://www.crsnic.net/
>> whois -h whois.crsnic.net jamiebaillie.com
...
>> Whois Server Version 1.3
>> Domain names in the .com and .net domains
can now be registered
>> with many different competing registrars. Go
to
http://www.internic.net
>> for detailed information.
>> Domain Name: JAMIEBAILLIE.COM
>> Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
>> Whois Server: whois.wildwestdomains.com
>> Referral URL:
http://www.wildwestdomains.com
>> Name Server: NAME3.GLORB.COM
>> Name Server: AMETHYST.JUSTTHE.NET
>> Status: ACTIVE
>> Updated Date: 20-mar-2004
>> Creation Date: 13-nov-2003
>> Expiration Date: 13-nov-2005
>> Registrant:
>> Jamie Baillie Is A Spammer
>> PO Box 481
>> Blacklick, Ohio 43004-0481
>> United States
>> Registered through: JustThe.net
>> Domain Name: JAMIEBAILLIE.COM
>> Created on: 13-Nov-03
>> Expires on: 13-Nov-05
>> Last Updated on: 18-Mar-04
>> Administrative Contact:
>> Brozny, Geoff *munged*
>> Jamie Baillie Is A Spammer
>> PO Box 481
>> Blacklick, Ohio 43004-0481
>> United States
>> 6144765524 Fax --
>> Technical Contact:
>> Brozny, Geoff *munged*
>> Jamie Baillie Is A Spammer
>> PO Box 481
>> Blacklick, Ohio 43004-0481
>> United States
>> 6144765524 Fax --
>> Domain servers in listed order:
>> NAME3.GLORB.COM
>> NS1.ENTERZONE.NET
>> NS2.ENTERZONE.NET
>> WildWest Domains this domain needs to be
immediately
>> removed from your registry as well.
>> Also this abusive individual is forging my
email address in the
>registrant
>> section of this registration.
>> I am not the owner of this domain and nor
should my
>> name be associated with this domain in any
way so they are fraudautly
>> listing my name as the register of this
domain when I am not.
>> Once again this individual has no right to
post any of the information
>> on the website including my picture, name,
address, phone numbers.
>> Also posting defamitory and harrasing
garbage on the website about
>> me once again.
>> 13:15:20] (@Yoder) Your site was not Free
Speech.
>> [13:15:24] (Jamie_Baillie) Yes it is
>> [13:15:30] (@Yoder) Your site was a blue
print for inciting violence
>> [13:15:33] (Jamie_Baillie) It provides free
information
>> [13:15:37] (Jamie_Baillie) NO it was not
>> [13:15:39] (@Yoder) The way you displayed the
information
>> [13:15:43] (Jamie_Baillie) It never inciting
violence
>> [13:15:47] (@Yoder) You are asking for legal
trouble from here to kingdom
>> come
>> That has been edited and modified by
various people and I asked them to
>> provide
>> proof that this was even me and have never
done so. But they are trying
>to
>> claim
>> this was me and not some one that was trying
to impersinate me. Once
>again
>> no
>> evidence was given to ever say this was me.
But yet they continue to post
>> this
>> garbage and even changed the name to my name
now.
>> And they have taken it and now edited that
document and put my name in
>> there.
>> They could not provide an IP address or
any other kind of solid evidence
>to
>> back up thier false statements.
>> They have no permission to use my picture
on this website and I demand
>that
>> this harasement and stalking immediately
stop.
>> This individual is clearly stalking me and
it needs to immediately cease
>> and
>> desist.
>> See that these abusive individuals are
immediately contacted and that the
>> ISP immediately removes these abusive
websites and if they are not
>willing
>> to do that then legal actions need to be
taken against them.
>> And because of the combination of both of
these sites listing my
>> home phone number, cell # and other personal
information I have
>> recieved many phone calls at all hours of the
day and night because
>> of this individual. This is totally
unacceptable and this website
>> needs to be immediately removed and they need
to stop spreading
>> these lies.
>> Jamie
>> --
>> For newsgroups and email this message is the
property of the sender.
>> NO portion of this message may be copied or
reposted without my
>> written consent. The message may not be
altered in any way with
>> out written permission. Copyright © 2003 -
2004 by Jamie
>> Path:
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>>
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>> From: "Geoff Brozny" <*munged*>
>> Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
>> Subject: Re: Paging Andrew D Kirch
>> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 22:49:44 -0500
>> Organization: Glorb Internet Services,
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>> "Jamie" <jamie100...@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
wrote in message
>>
news:Lbr7c.133779$TxJ.101006@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
>> > I recieved this email from some one that
you must obviously know.
>> > I don't even know who this is and I never
heard of Frank Corsi
>> > before.
>> nobody cares what your problems are, or
what you think, also
>>
http://www.jamiebaillie.com still works
fine.
>> geoff